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Monday, June 11, 2007

This does NOT make me happy!

The phone just rang and a lilting female voice greeted me. I could tell she was smiling by the rise and fall in her opening words. She said, "Hello, Mrs. N., I am M's [DS 2] AP Science teacher for next year!" It didn't really register, just WHY she might be calling here in JUNE for a class that starts in AUGUST.

The conversation went something like this: "I didn't get my class list for next year until late."

I thought: "Interesting, our teachers STILL don't have theirs, and won't, until the new school year begins."

She continued: "I was unable to connect with the students before I left. So I left their assignments at the school for them to pick up. M needs to go to the IB office and get his. It's due DAY ONE of school. He must pick it up by Friday or else I'll have to give you my home phone number so I can deliver it to him."

After asking myself, "Did she just say 'Deliver it'?" My next reaction was: "He's not in IB {International Baccalaureate}"...but as she continued I realized that she was dead serious and she was, in fact, his new teacher. She was only using the IB office as a clearing house. The other thing I am quite certain about is that she was very proud of herself for giving her students a "head start" for the class.

She explained further: "I am concerned about the block schedule and our time together, so all students need to memorize these tables and formulas first. There's a textbook waiting there for M too. He can use it as reference if he'd like. I've also included the first set of homework so that he can really get ahead if he'd like to do so."

I have no problem with kids having a Summer Reading List for extra credit and even early discussion...but charts and tables to memorize before day one of a SCIENCE class!?!?! That, I have issues with. I mean it's unsupported learning. And being someone who is Math/Science challenged, I have to wonder if I were given this assignment how well I would do. Thankfully, my son is a Math/Science whiz.

I know the curriculum is dense. The task of teaching, especially at these upper levels, is huge. I know it's harder than it was when I was in school. I also don't think we "should" have three months off in the Summer. I'd rather see it spread out over the year more evenly, so less is "forgotten" over such a long time off.

But, when I hear about this type of stuff over the "breaks" I have to wonder just WHAT each teacher is doing with his or her time off. I mean are they sitting at home and studying for their upcoming teaching? Are they learning something new? Are they preparing, in some way, to be a better more effective teacher? Some are. But, I fear that most aren't.

I don't know which category this person falls. I hope it's the latter. I hope that she truly IS a conscientious teacher who is wanting to give her students every advantage. She seemed very nice on the phone...and I'm pretty sure she didn't hang up and give her best "bwa-ha-ha-ha".

The other thing I know, though, is that my DSs all live in a house where there are supportive parents who will ensure that the work gets done. And for the most part, this is the type of student that is at DSs school. Where I work, however, students are lucky if they see their parents during the day....and school work is not really a priority. I know these students DO exist in every program. What happens to those kids?

Regardless of the "kind" of teacher she is...or the kinds of students she is teaching...I still have to question whether it's right or fair to impose assignments such as this as "MUST DO's". I know that my opinion is contrary to what many other people think...but I'd love to hear what you think....

{Edited to Add: DS 2 seems fine with this arrangement. It's just me and my "old-fashioned" thinking, I'm sure. And certainly it's because it's an AP course vs. a regular Science.}

20 comments:

The Bass Player's Wife said...

From seventh grade on, I was assigned real homework over the summers. Not just reading lists, either. I had math every year, and Latin once I reached HS.
AP classes have been under a lot of scrutiny of late, so I am figuring that this teacher is wanting to make sure her students are really prepared for the exam.
As for what teachers are doing on their breaks, I can only speak for those I know. They are taking classes this summer and rewriting curriculum.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I would expect that from an IB or AP class, but not from regular science teachers! I just think breaks should be breaks. We all need them!

Connie Barris said...

our area has year round school... and yes, homework through the summers...

during the school year.. it's horrible...

not like the good ol days...

Susan said...

This is an AP class and I understand that, somewhat. I just think it's hard when they don't get time to be kids.

:-) Susan

2nd Cup of Coffee said...

It seems a little excessive, but I wonder if our AP classes might be easier than yours. I totally see your viewpoint, and it's an informed one since you are a teacher yourself as well as a concerned mom.

Anonymous said...

Oh Wow! That would really bother me, too. AP class or not, summer break is there for a reason. Even in year round schools, they get breaks. Kids have to grow up so quickly these days and it just is sad everything has to be *pushed*. I say, let them enjoy their summer ... they're gonna have plenty of years to have to be mature and deal with the *deep* stuff.

Unknown said...

Wow, Susan, it's a tough one! I can understand it, too, for AP classes and can understand that three months off can be considered too much. I guess it's one of those areas that there is no "right" answer for.

Susan said...

Thanks for your comment on my blog about me "nudging" you "o) You know what it is dear.....Proverbs 27:17 "Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." You sharpen me and I sharpen you.
((hugs))
Susan

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm like you. I don't mind reading lists for extra credit or even "you may want to look over this over the summer." But I don't like having required homework. Some of the schools here sent students home last fall when they couldn't prove they read the required reading list over the summer. So silly.

Ramblins of a middle-aged goddess said...

Well here I am older than most and would want my kids to have some time to have some fun and not think about school for awhile..but then again that is Just MY OPINION!! Kids need to be kids sometimes...Sandy

Anonymous said...

The summer of 2004 I had to read the book "Why do people hate America?" and turn it in, annotated/highlighted, the first day for my world history honors class, plus an Algebra II worksheet with about 100 problems on it. 2006 lent itself to AP Language, where we had to read 2 books (an annotate them) and complete 3 essays, one persuasive and 2 analyzing rhetoric. Last summer, I read 4 books and did 3 essays for AP Literature and read another 2 books for the AP Statistics class that I ended up switching out of. All I can say, is that there's no way college can be harder than what I've already done, and that I'm so happy to finally be on vacation :)

-Leah

Anonymous said...

We just had a huge class discussion/debate on this same issue,....no wonder our children have problems with alcohol and drugs...they are allowed no time at all to just 'chill out' naturally and be kids...it's like the day I went commando on my daughter's science teacher (what is it with science teachers anyway) at her last school conference...she was concerned that Samantha wasn't applying herself and she would hate to see her miss out on the honors program when she got into high school...due to her lack of interest in doing extra credit science projects (in sixth grade) instead of playing after school (or whatever it is twelve year olds do)..the teacher really challenged me when I told her in no uncertain terms did I even want my daughter in an honors program...you would have thought that I had committed a felony. Oh I could rant some more on this topic...but I don't want to take up all your bandwidth. ;)..BTW...I am thrilled that you are not happy with this...you are a parent with integrity.

Anonymous said...

P.S. I noticed the comment that your son was fine with it...did you just post that part??? ...anyway..I must add that my dual enrollment students and those that just graduated from high school all thought the pressure to succeed or the extra work they had to do wasn't a big deal either...they all are okay with having to choose their majors as freshman in high school and working through the summer to be ahead of the game when school starts....go figure....you may be right about us being of the 'old school' philosophy. :)

Jill said...

Seems to me there is a fine line between dedication to school and NEEDING A BREAK! Even grown-ups need vacations! This was a very eye-opening post.

Jennifer Swanepoel said...

I took an AP English class in high school and we had a couple of books to read over the summer with a TEST on the first day of school!! It was not fun.

PDub said...

While I was reading your post, all I could think was "does this teacher think her class is really that important?" I too think your DS could use a break during the summer and that sounds like a lot of work for someone who isn't in the IB classes. But if he isn't too phased by it, that's great for him. He seems very flexible (a good thing!)

Melli said...

Yes! It's definitely because it's an AP course! Krysti had sO much summer homework last year -- she took 5 AP courses this year... and summer just wasn't summer last year! It was CRAZY! And... she didn't NEED ANY of those courses for her college!

Sharon Bardwell said...

I may be the odd-woman out here. I'm old school (or at least "old") but I do not see a problem with this. Why?

1) Taking the AP class is a choice, a priviledge and an honor. At the end of the class, the students (usually) have the opportunity to pass a test for college credit. If they fail, everyone blames the teacher, not the student. The student who has earned the right to be in this class and chooses to take it, needs to make time to learn all the material and getting a head start is not a bad idea.

2)If it is block scheduling, usually the teacher will only have a quarter or semester to help the students learn it all. Again getting a head start may make the 'block' time less demanding on the students.

3)It's not like they are telling the students to go to school 6-7 hours a day over the summer. They are just telling them to keep their minds sharp by preparing for an hour or so each day until they know this material..practice memorizing part of the tables and formulas each day until he gets them all.

4) and finally... Discipline... taking time to do a little each day supports the discipline they have all through the school year. If this was a sports class, I don't think anyone would be complaining if the coach said you are 'required' to work out for 45 minutes to an hour each day over the summer in order to keep your muscles in shape...this workout will keep their minds in shape.

And then you still have time to swim, play, rest, or whatever...

With all that said...I'm not his mom and you may know things about your son that I can't see. My son struggle all through school and never had a chance at an AP or IB program. You know your children best and know if it is more than he can handle.

Just my lonely opinion...Wish him well for me :-)

Anonymous said...

I think Sharon at Little Lessons has a point; but so does DS 2's Mom (my DIL).

I rarely like surprises -- except when my wife and 2 dil's got all 8 grandkids over to our house for MY bday. That was a GREAT surprise!

I think such "requirements" should be known up front so students and parents can make informed decisions.

DS 2 will be able to hit the ground running -- and with his schedule, that will be a blessing.

Anonymous said...

Hey it's Matt,

Although I said that I don't have a problem with it. It does not excite me at all. Of course I would rather have nothing to do, but I guess I knew it was comming so it didn't phase me. I also have a ton of other summer assignments for my other AP classes. Just so you know mom. This isn't the only class. I have 7 AP classes next year, and they all have work to do over the summer. I'm excited for school next year, but not so excited for the summer work. I'll get through it though.

Well, it was nice to comment on here for the first time in a while.

-Matt